TS tour ethics

[mshatty]

Interestingly, when Wyndham did it's annual update with Financial/Stock analysts 3 or 4 months ago, it disclosed that it's research showed that most people who purchased from it (the developer) had already attended 2+
TS sales presentations. The presentations were not only Wyndham but other TS developer companies.

So if you don't go over 2 presentations, you may be all right.

[Transit]

If you have time do a third for more goodies.They are going to take some poor soul for all they can.

[Rent_Share]

Originally Posted by mshatty

So if you don't go over 2 presentations, you may be all right.

I am safe we have done, two, one in Maui and one in Lake Tahoe - the DW syas no more, no way, never again.

Both were lucrative, got a Luau and Snorkeling Trip for 5 (+/- free) in Hawaii and pushed the "hooker" in Lake Tahoe for more than the $ 100 they were offering and got two nights at a selective Sunterra Resort (Studio) Wanted to sign me up for a preview, but attending another presentation was clearly not required in the paperwork and we passed on number 3

Another bullet dodged.

In my youth I went Mazatlan and was continuosly harrased by the T/S "hookers" at the pool area, I finally got them to leave me alone by stating that the only difference between them and the people selling the trinkets on the neach was that the jotel allowed them on the property.

[Glitter Brunello]

This past week I looked at about a dozen t/s in Tahoe. I tried to look at the Sunterra property, but they insisted I do 'the tour' if I wanted to look at the unit. I told the 'tour promoter' that I wasn't going to buy. She told me not to tell the salesman, or I wouldn't get my 'gift.' Where's the ethics in that?

I taught the poor sales guy so much that I earned far more than the $75 it paid...

And I wonder, is it just a coincidence that so many t/s salespeople have suffered horrible tragedies in their recent past?

[tonyg]

Originally Posted by Glitter

...And I wonder, is it just a coincidence that so many t/s salespeople have suffered horrible tragedies in their recent past?

I think it may not be so, or a coincidence.

[JimIg23]

Somewhat in the line of ethics (and logistics), what do you do when you have two small children with you? Do you take them on the tour? Will the company let you?

[Glitter Brunello]

Originally Posted by JimIg23

Somewhat in the line of ethics (and logistics), what do you do when you have two small children with you? Do you take them on the tour? Will the company let you?

There is often a supervised play area in which to leave the kids. No t/s salesman in his/her right mind would force you to leave your kids, though.

[JimIg23]

TS salesperson could not do that, nor do I suspect any parent in their right mind would let them (if the salesperson couldnt stand the kids, they may ask for only one parent to stay, but that's their problem). Just wondering what is generally expected in those situations. Do they expect the kids to come and what do parents usually do?

[nursetanya1973]

The first TS presentation we went on, our children were very little. We refused to let them take the children to the playroom. The salesman was not happy about that. You could tell he did not want them to be there. He suggested they go to the playroom so often that my mother actually got mad and took them out of the room, and she stayed out as well. They were being good, sitting on our laps quietly, but their presences seemed to not be in the script.

Another time, when they were a little older, we did allow them to go to the playroom. This turned out to be bad because we could not hurry the salesman, and the children's angst might have been beneficial. That tour took 3 hours. The salesman was horrible, would not let us leave. We had actually given them money for discounted tickets, and we could not leave until they signed off, or our own money would have been in jeopardy. That was a very hard earned lesson, and we have never been on another tour. (It was Liki Tiki, in case anyone is curious.)

Actually, that is not quite true. We did stop at the tour building and ask for an owners update at our Hilton. We did not ask for, nor were we offered any compensation. We just had some questions, were thinking of adding points. The lady they put us with was horrible. She was downright mean when she found out we had bought resale, and when we complained to the manager, she was worse. All that, and we walked out empty-handed.

[CatLovers]

Normally we stay away from the timeshare presentations, but ... when the carrot dangled in front of our noses is big enough .... we have been known to succumb. We would get substantial discounts on the several tours and activities we wanted to participate in, so we signed up for the tour. We made it clear up front that the only reason we were going to the presentations was because we wanted the discounts. We were told that's why most people go. This is their marketing come-on and they know that not all the takers on the "advertising" will convert into sales. It's just a numbers game!

I have no problem with the ethics since there was no subterfuge involved. We are just the percentage that doesn't convert into sales.