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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by steveandangela View Post
    Jim - we spoke over email three times late wednesday of last week.

    The info you've given in this post should be mandatory reading for anyone coming to these forums. Even though I've read most of your posts, this one was somehow different,answered all the buying questions we've ever had, and was extremely clear.

    You've explained it very well and it's easy to understand and absolutely necessary in order to navigate these murky waters. As always, thanks for the unselfish advice and honest help. We'll continue to talk here at home, and when my wife and i decide to pull the trigger and upgrade - it will of course be with you. Everything the sales people tell us you already know and we have not fallen for their gimmicks because you prepared us to go in there. When they share the truth,you affirm it, and when they share untruths or stretch the truth, now we can see through it. We are so far ahead of the game now due to this forum, the yahoo forum, and your patience. Thanks!

    Steve
    Okay. I'll make it a sticky.

    Jim

  2. #12

    few points for ths years travel

    how can I buy points to add to my current points. I only need 225min would like up to 2000
    what kinda price am I looking at?
    Who do I buy from?

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by BerryQueen View Post
    how can I buy points to add to my current points. I only need 225min would like up to 2000 what kinda price am I looking at? Who do I buy from?
    I think that the minimum amount you can buy is 3000 points when you tradein. Contact Jim in the message before you. He will help you.

    Charles

  4. #14
    Just an update to this thread. As of August 21, 2009, Bluegreen changed the rules for upgrading accounts via its authorized reseller. It is no longer possible to make resale points count toward Premier if they were purchased AFTER Feb 21, 2007 and they weren't upgraded BEFORE, Aug 21, 2009.

    In other words, it is no longer possible to remove the red from resale accounts.

    All points must be purchased from Pinnacle Vacations or Bluegreen to count toward Premier status.

    If you have any points that do not qualify for Premier, send me a private message and I'll provide you with the options available for your account.

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by BocaBum99 View Post
    As of August 21, 2009, Bluegreen changed the rules for upgrading accounts via its authorized reseller. It is no longer possible to make resale points count toward Premier if they were purchased AFTER Feb 21, 2007 and they weren't upgraded BEFORE, Aug 21, 2009.
    Boca,

    Can you still "trade in" resale contracts with BG or Pinnacle, buy some more points, and get "new" contracts on different unit/weeks and have all of the "new" contracts count towards premier?

    Charles

  6. #16
    because I am a traveller plus owner I was able to by a minimum of 1000points for $150US

  7. #17
    Jim,
    Could you please tell me how I ca get the red out of some points I purchased with an unauthorized resaler?





    Quote Originally Posted by BocaBum99 View Post
    No, what they say about the coding is true. If you make a purchase that is not from Bluegreen or a Bluegreen authorized reseller, then your account is marked in RED. Everyone in owner services and the call centers can see it. It means those points do not count toward VIP/Premier features and the agents will enforce those policies. It is Bluegreen's enforcement mechanism for resale purchases.

    But, there is fully legitimate way to "get the red out." Send mea private message is you are interested, I have the Visine for Bluegreen resale points.

    What is also true is that when you attend an owner update, the sales team will print out your complete ownership in preparation for you update. They will know what you own, who you bought it from, how much you paid and when you bought it. When that happens, it truly feels like a violation of your privacy. Just expect it if you want to attend owner updates. A lot of owners get truly fearful after such a meeting. If that happens to you, just post your experience here and we will tell you what is smoke and what is reality. The best thing to do is to stay away from owner updates.

    Jim

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by smbarker0325 View Post
    Jim,
    Could you please tell me how I ca get the red out of some points I purchased with an unauthorized resaler?
    Bluegreen changed the rules for getting the red out. As of Aug 21, 2009, that is no longer possible. The only way to do it now is with some type of trade in.

    Send me a private message and I will provide you with some options for doing just that.

    Jim

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by BocaBum99 View Post
    Here is some additional information that should help you clear the smoke from the air.

    There are several ways to make a Bluegreen Points purchase.

    1) You can make the purchase directly from the resort. This is the way most people buy. This is paying full retail.

    2) You can do an upgrade at a resort, this is what they try to do for you when you attend an owner update. The way it works is they take back everything you own and do an equity trade in toward a new package which is more points than you currently own. They call it a "combined" package or they claim its on one deed or contract. But, all it really is is a point package deeded at a single resort, with a common anniversary date and in a common trust fund. When they say combined, this is what they really mean. It turns out that there are several ways to "combine" accounts. This is also paying full retail for points.

    3) You can make a purchase from an authorized reseller. If you do, then you get all the VIP/Premier features that they offer you at the resort. It costs a lot less than full retail and you get the same benefits. There are only a small number of things you don't get like a free binder, some RCI certificates for last call vacations, 4000 anniversary points and a charter member certificate. Otherwise, you still get unlimited bonus time, Traveler Plus with Select Connections and Premier if you have enough points.

    4) You make a purchase from anyone else. These are resale purchases from a non-authorized reseller or directly from an owner. These points do not count toward VIP or Premier benefits.

    I hope this helps.

    Jim

    This is great summary of options. I have one question about the Charter Certificate. You said it is not part of the package buying authorized points, but what I see on the Charter Certificate I have from a Bluegreen direct sale is:

    1. VIP Program - Unlimited Bonus Time, Year-round Day-Use Privileges and On-site Concierge Service
    2. Traveler Plus - Enhanced Membership VIP Program, Hotel Points Program, Owner Adventures, Grand yacht Club, Coast to Coast RV resorts and Direct Exchange
    3. Resort Exchange Membership - Initiation fee Waiver
    4. Encore Rewards Enrollment

    So from this list, is there anything we wouldn't have when buying authorized points from an authorized dealer? Is it that we just wouldn't have the piece of paper that says "Charter Certificate" but we'd still have all the benefits on it?

    Thanks

  10. #20
    Ok, a question (maybe two) about buying points from an authorized dealer, I requested info on a points sale from an authorized resaller and received a reply that stated inpart following:

    "Please be advised that these points do not come with the Bluegreen Ancillary Benefits. This means you will not got charter benefits which includes the ability to make unlimited bonus time reservations at any Bluegreen Resort and the ability to join Bluegreen's Traveler's Plus Program" it goes on to say "This listing would also not be eligoble to be counted toward Bluegreen's Premier Levels".

    I have copied/pasted below part of a post dated Jun. 2005,

    3) You can make a purchase from an authorized reseller. If you do, then you get all the VIP/Premier features that they offer you at the resort. It costs a lot less than full retail and you get the same benefits. There are only a small number of things you don't get like a free binder, some RCI certificates for last call vacations, 4000 anniversary points and a charter member certificate. Otherwise, you still get unlimited bonus time, Traveler Plus with Select Connections and Premier if you have enough points.

    My questions are these, 1. Have the Bluegreen rules changed for resall point sales sence this post. 2. Is this because it maybe an older Bluegreen points purchase and these options were not available at the time of purchase or 3. can the seller sell these options independent of points sale?

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