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    Question what's the angle on this scam acoming?

    Inquiry received via Vacation Timeshare and Rental website:
    Message: Is your vacation resort unit (Timeshare) still available for sale? Please advise.
    answered by cut/paste info again fm Vacation Timeshare and Rentals:
    Aquamarine Villas
    Oceanside, California, United States
    Rent: Not for Rent
    Buy: US$3,900 plus closing costs (more info)
    Availability: Almost Any Time
    Unit Size: 1 Bedroom/1 Bath (sleeps 4)
    Check-In Day: Any Day
    Available Season: High Season
    Use Type: Annual Float Wk
    Annual Maintenance Fees: US$660

    This is for sale, I have clear title.
    response:
    Thanks for the details. Having reviewed all the information provided, I have made my offer as clearly as possible below.
    1- I will be willing to pay $3,000 for your timeshare, closing will commence within the next few days.
    2- I am hearing impaired in both ears and as a result, I will doing all closing formalities through my broker. I will be responsible for the closing cost and title transfer fees along with my broker fees.
    3- Closing will be done through First American title transfer (www.firstam.com/title) and funds will be held in Escrow during closing.
    Let me know if this works and I will inform you on the next
    I've seen the "I am hearing impaired in both ears" but can't remember where this is really going ....
    ... not enough time for all the timeshares ®

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    https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...both+ears+scam




    . . . all kinds of time, too many timeshares
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    Interesting, the transfer company seems to be legit claiming offices around here in Hartford,CT and Springfield, Mass. The only scam opening I see is the old one where they send a check for more and want you to give them back the difference. Maybe you should play along and see what's up.

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    Was hoping for definitive info on where this was going, I do know all the standard scams with the $$$.
    Quote Originally Posted by tonyg View Post
    Interesting, the transfer company seems to be legit claiming offices around here in Hartford,CT and Springfield, Mass. The only scam opening I see is the old one where they send a check for more and want you to give them back the difference. Maybe you should play along and see what's up.
    Sure, they're trying to lend legitimacy to their "offer."

    Here's their latest reply:
    Thanks for accepting my offer.


    Please provide below information so I can mail in a deposit of $500 to hold the property. As soon as deposit is mailed in, my broker will be in touch to arrange documentation and title transfer and upon satisfaction, balance for your timeshare would be released from escrow.


    Full names you want on the check
    Mailing address
    Phone numbers.


    I shall await your feedback.
    ... not enough time for all the timeshares ®

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spence View Post
    Was hoping for definitive info on where this was going, I do know all the standard scams with the $$$.
    Sure, they're trying to lend legitimacy to their "offer."
    I'm deaf in both ears, so will refer that to my broker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyg View Post
    Interesting, the transfer company seems to be legit claiming offices around here in Hartford,CT and Springfield, Mass. The only scam opening I see is the old one where they send a check for more and want you to give them back the difference. Maybe you should play along and see what's up.
    Tony - I, personally, have played it out to see where it would go. What I posted is my personal story.

    There is no connection with First American. None. Nada. Zippo. Aught. They simply use the name; if you press for contact info it gets ignored. All communication with the broker happen via e-mail, using a non-First American email account.
    “Maybe you shouldn't dress like that.”

    “This is a blouse and skirt. I don't know what you're talking about.”

    “You shouldn't wear that body.”

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    So what is the game ? They give you a $ 500 bad check and get the timeshare, or use more ploys to get personal data ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyg View Post
    So what is the game ? They give you a $ 500 bad check and get the timeshare, or use more ploys to get personal data ?
    I found my old thread. I told him that I, too, was hearing-impaired and needed to do everything by e-mail. He said he wanted to mail me a deposit to hold the timeshare, and he wanted name and address. I responded that no deposit was necessary, and if he would just send me the name of his broker and the First American office where his broker was located we could the paperwork started. He refused to do so, and insisted that he needed to send in a deposit, that he had bought many timeshares and this was the standard approach.

    ******

    So it was critical that he send me a check for deposit. He refused my offer to skip the deposit and just start the paperwork. It also wouldn't work for him to use the deposit to fund the escrow account.

    From that I figure that it was most likely going to be the situation where I get a check that is for more than the amount of the deposit, with instructions to wire the excess to the broker.
    “Maybe you shouldn't dress like that.”

    “This is a blouse and skirt. I don't know what you're talking about.”

    “You shouldn't wear that body.”

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    I have received the identical offer through an ad on the same site. As soon as the hearing impaired First Am message came through I told them I could not proceed and refused any further interaction. Several OY have played along further and received the fake check. I wouldn't play along enough to send additional personal information that can be used for who knows what.

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    I always have something on CL. It occurs to me that I have not had any of the obvious scams for a long, long time. It used to be almost daily.

    What does hearing impaired have to do with needing a broker?
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