This is another instance of "first-year/new-resort" SSR opened its first phase for occupancy in May of '04.I purchased in 2004
Cruises yes. RCI exchanges no.Disney did take away a few resale rights like using points for other purposes like cruises and RCI exchanges.
When I purchased BLT in 2009 my net price after incentives was 86 dollars.
It was my second DVC purchase, I knew about the resale market but when I analysed the facts like the low MF's, the probability of BLT keeping it's value similar to BCV in the future made the decision easier.
The funny thing is I have been renting all my DVC points in the last few years, I have been using my Grandview Las Vegas RCI timeshares to trade into DVC for less than 1/3 the cost of using my Disney points. I have scored a 1 bed @OKW, 2 bed @Grand California, Studio @ Beach club in the last 2 yrs and have recently booked a 2 bed at Animal Kingdom for Mar 2013.
Clearly I haven't been paying attention -- last time I looked, there was some debate about whether Grand California was available through RCI.Originally Posted by mickey moe
But, yah, even my overpriced points through BG get me DVC units cheaper than owning DVC resale would. As bnoble says, if you're flexible and/or willing to stay somewhere else if it comes to it, and especially if you can go offseason, trading into DVC is likely the cheapest way to go.
(My BG points are "overpriced" in that I have a small ownership so pay more per point in MFs. I got them resale for five bucks and transfer costs, so definitely not overpriced in that sense!)
Any of the portal minis are cheaper than using your DVC points but that doesn't stop the DVC junkies from needing to own their Disney vacations and there is definitely something to be said for the flexibility of what DVC offers. I own several ways into DVC and for the most part have used my DVC points instead because I don't need a full week and I'd rather use my minis in the minis.Clearly I haven't been paying attention -- last time I looked, there was some debate about whether Grand California was available through RCI.
(My BG points are "overpriced" in that I have a small ownership so pay more per point in MFs. I got them resale for five bucks and transfer costs, so definitely not overpriced in that sense!)
I do have to admit that I did get jealous of all these cheap DVC trades and finally took the plunge with my CMV UDI which I am amassing TPU's for using in DVC. So I may feel differently next year when I can stay in my favorite resort for 1/3 of what it would have cost me buying more DVC points. Who knows, maybe in the future, I'll just rent out my points to pay for those 3 weeks I can get with my CMV cottage and be like the rest of you guys.
My only DVC exchange this year was to Vero in a 2 bedroom. Would have cost me more than 250 DVC points at a value of about $2500 if you value your points at $10 which is what most are going for at the moment, although it is going up. In pure MF's that stay would have cost me 1-3/4 years worth of points so $1250 at least in just MF's. With the exchange the cost was only $450 plus the average of my RCI membership. How's that for Mickey Math.Hard to justify using points at Vero when it's practically a giveaway in RCI. I'm hoping that Alaunai will be the same since it seems the off site resorts don't have the appeal that the Orlando ones do.
True. At the time I didn't know that you could buy at another resort since the sales person only toured SSR and was definitely selling SSR.
I should have immersed myself in Mouseowners before purchasing, not afterwards but such is life. I still get a ton of use and value out of what I own and that's exactly the reason why I purchased. There is definitely something to be said for ease of use. Now with online booking DVC has been taken to a whole new level. Just wish you could search all resorts and sizes like the Wyndham portal but I know that's too complicated for Disney's IT dept. Oh well, at least we got something. Something is better than nothing like before.
And thanks for the correction on the RCI trades. I truly don't pay attention to the benefits taken away since it doesn't apply to me. Even if I purchased resale it would have been for exclusive use at Disney anyway. It's just nice to know that maybe one year I can do the cruise and now that Mickey will park a boat in my backyard this is more appealing than ever.
I do think there are definite advantages to owning DVC if you want to stay onsite at WDW and if you go during any of the more popular seasons, although how much of an advantage that is varies according to what RCI is up to and what RCI members own. If I weren't the only serious Disney fan in the family, and if I weren't traveling with the troops, I'd be seriously tempted to buy into DVC. But their 2 BRs are too small for us; sometimes marginal in terms of square footage, but the layouts are awkward enough there's no way.
With the possible exception of Aulani, I don't think anyone outside of rabid Disney fans cares about the offsite DVC resorts, and they don't seem to be on the best sites for the location, so I expect they'll always be ridiculous cheap through RCI. The TUG threads I've seen on Aulani give me the impression that the resort is too big for its grounds (lots of griping about crowds in the common areas), so it may be Aulani ends up being the same way. Sounds like Disney's trying to reconfigure the grounds to deal with the crowding issue, could go either way I guess.
I'm enough of a Disney-phile I'd totally be going for the DVC Vero Beach or Hilton Head at RCI's normal point prices, but at the BG point prices I don't think so. *sigh*
what is a portal mini? and is BG - Bluegreen?
what kinds of incentives does Disney offer that drop the price from the low 100's to 86?
so your MF's were lower buying direct versus resale???
They always have some type of special like maybe $15. off per point and then a Disney gift card. Sometimes, they give a free 3 night cruise. There is pretty much always a special offer when a new resort opens. However, the current new sales resorts are going for around $150 per point. So, even with incentives, you won't see less than $100pp on new resort sales.
You can find the current pricing and specials on dvcnews.com
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