HUGE increase in points needed to stay at TSs

[GrayFal]

https://www.marriott.com/rewards/learn/prgnews.mi

Changes Underway for Marriott Vacation Club Redemptions


Effective July 16, 2009, the number of points required for redemption stays at Marriott Vacation Club resorts is changing. Marriott Vacation Club properties will now be assigned hotel category levels, which means the points required for a free night at Marriott Vacation Clubs resorts will change.

This new pricing applies to Marriott Vacation Club redemption reservations booked on or after July 16.

Visit our FAQ page for more information.

[GrayFal]

https://www.marriott.com/marriott.mi?page=mvci-faq

What is changing about Marriott Vacation Club awards, and when does it start?

The number of points required for redemption stays at Marriott Vacation Club resorts is about to change. Effective July 16, 2009, Marriott Vacation Club properties will be assigned hotel category levels, which means the points required for a free night at Marriott Vacation Club resorts will change. This new pricing applies to Marriott Vacation Club redemption reservations booked on or after July 16.


How many points are required for a free night?


This chart shows the points required by category level for each redemption night for a Deluxe Guest room. Additional points are required for 1-bedroom, 2-bedroom, and 3-bedrooms villas.

Originally Posted by GrayFal

How many points are required for 1-bedroom, 2-bedroom & 3-bedroom villas?

A 1-bedroom is an additional 5,000 points per night, a 2-bedroom is an additional 10,000 points per night, and a 3-bedroom is an additional 15,000 points per night.


Why do the types of rooms offered for redemption at Marriott Vacation Club resorts vary by location?

Each property has a different assortment of Deluxe Guest Room, 1-bedroom, 2-bedroom, and 3-bedrooms villas. Not all properties have all room types.


Will Marriott Vacation Club participate in No Blackout Dates?

Marriott Vacation Club resorts will not offer No Blackout Dates. Because Marriott Vacation Club resorts are timeshare properties, availability depends on whether the timeshare owners plan to occupy their rooms on specific nights.


from this page https://www.marriott.com/marriott.mi?page=mvci-faq

[GrayFal]

Originally Posted by GrayFal

United States


Arizona
Canyon Villas – Phoenix, AZ
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6


California
Desert Springs Villas I – Palm Desert, CA
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Desert Springs Villas II – Palm Desert, CA
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Grand Residences by Marriott, Lake Tahoe – South Lake Tahoe, CA
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 7

Grand Residences by Marriott, Tahoe – South Lake Tahoe, CA
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 7

Newport Coast Villas – Newport Coast, CA
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Shadow Ridge I, The Villages – Palm Desert, CA
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Shadow Ridge II, The Enclave – Palm Desert, CA
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Timber Lodge – South Lake Tahoe, CA
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Colorado

Mountain Valley Lodge at Breckenridge – Breckenridge, CO
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Florida

Beach Place Towers – Fort Lauderdale, FL
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Crystal Shores – Marco Island, FL
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Cypress Harbour – Orlando, FL
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Grande Vista – Orlando, FL
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Harbour Lake – Orlando, FL
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 5

Imperial Palm Villas – Orlando, FL
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Legends Edge at Bay Point—Panama City, FL
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 5

Ocean Pointe – Palm Beach Shores, FL
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 5

Royal Palms – Orlando, FL
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Sabal Palms – Orlando, FL
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Villas at Doral – Miami, FL
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Hawaii
Kaua'i Beach Club – Lihue-Kauai, HI
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Ko Olina Beach Club – Kapolei-Oahu, HI
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 7

Maui Ocean Club – Lahaina-Maui, HI
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 7

Maui Ocean Club, Lahaina and Napili Villas – Lahaina, HI
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 7

Waiohai Beach Club – Koloa-Kauai, HI
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Massachusetts
Custom House – Boston, MA
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 7

Missouri
Horizons by Marriott Vacation Club at Branson – Branson, MO
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Nevada

Grand Chateau 1 & 2 – Las Vegas, NV
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

New Jersey
Fairway Villas at Seaview – Absecon, NJ
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

South Carolina
Barony Beach Club – Hilton Head, SC
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Grande Ocean – Hilton Head, SC
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Harbour Club – Hilton Head Island, SC
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Harbour Point and Sunset Pointe at Shelter Cove – Hilton Head, SC
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Heritage Club – Hilton Head Island, SC
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Monarch at Sea Pines – Hilton Head Island, SC
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

OceanWatch Villas at Grande Dunes – Myrtle Beach, SC
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

SurfWatch – Hilton Head, SC
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Utah
MountainSide – Park City, UT
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Summit Watch– Park City, UT
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Virgin Islands (US)
Frenchman's Cove – St. Thomas, USVI
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Virginia
Manor Club at Ford's Colony – Williamsburg, VA
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 5

Aruba

Aruba Ocean Club – Palm Beach, Aruba
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 7

Aruba Surf Club – Palm Beach, Aruba
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 7

France
Village d'Ile-de-France – Bailly Romainvilliers, France
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

St. Kitts and Nevis
St. Kitts Beach Club – Frigate Bay, St. Kitts and Nevis
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Spain
Club Son Antem – Llucmajor, Spain
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Marbella Beach Resort – Marbella, Spain
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Playa Andaluza – Estepona, Spain
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 6

Thailand
Mai Khao Beach – Phuket, Thailand
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 5

Phuket Beach Club – Phuket, Thailand
Marriott Rewards Hotel Category: 5

So now - instead of it costing 150,000 to book a 7 night 2BR in Aruba - it will cost 35,000 + 10,000 = 45,000 X 4 nights = 180,000 5th night free - and 2 more nights at 45,000 = 90 - total 7 nights in a 2BR = 270

and if I trade in my 2BR platinum week in Aruba - I receive 90,000 points

[ArtsieAng]

Pat,

I think if you book 7 nights straight, at a 2bdrm villa in Aruba, you still would need 150,000 points. At least I hope so! ......


https://www.marriott.com/rewards/usepoints/mvciPart.mi
Aruba
Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - Palm Beach, Aruba
• 1 night in a deluxe guest room — 25,000
• 2 nights in a deluxe guest room — 40,000
• 3 nights in a deluxe guest room — 50,000
• 4 nights in a deluxe guest room — 65,000
• 5 nights in a deluxe guest room — 75,000
• 6 nights in a deluxe guest room — 90,000
• 7 nights in a deluxe guest room — 100,000
• 1 night in a 1 bedroom villa — 35,000
• 2 nights in a 1 bedroom villa — 60,000
• 3 nights in a 1 bedroom villa — 75,000
• 4 nights in a 1 bedroom villa — 90,000
• 5 nights in a 1 bedroom villa — 100,000
• 6 nights in a 1 bedroom villa — 115,000
• 7 nights in a 1 bedroom villa — 125,000
• 1 night in a 2 bedroom villa — 45,000
• 2 nights in a 2 bedroom villa — 80,000
• 3 nights in a 2 bedroom villa — 100,000
• 4 nights in a 2 bedroom villa — 115,000
• 5 nights in a 2 bedroom villa — 125,000
• 6 nights in a 2 bedroom villa — 140,000
• 7 nights in a 2 bedroom villa — 150,000

[GrayFal]

Originally Posted by ArtsieAng

Pat,

I think if you book 7 nights straight, at a 2bdrm villa in Aruba, you still would need 150,000 points. At least I hope so! ......


https://www.marriott.com/rewards/usepoints/mvciPart.mi
Aruba
Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - Palm Beach, Aruba
• 1 night in a deluxe guest room — 25,000
• 2 nights in a deluxe guest room — 40,000
• 3 nights in a deluxe guest room — 50,000
• 4 nights in a deluxe guest room — 65,000
• 5 nights in a deluxe guest room — 75,000
• 6 nights in a deluxe guest room — 90,000
• 7 nights in a deluxe guest room — 100,000
• 1 night in a 1 bedroom villa — 35,000
• 2 nights in a 1 bedroom villa — 60,000
• 3 nights in a 1 bedroom villa — 75,000
• 4 nights in a 1 bedroom villa — 90,000
• 5 nights in a 1 bedroom villa — 100,000
• 6 nights in a 1 bedroom villa — 115,000
• 7 nights in a 1 bedroom villa — 125,000
• 1 night in a 2 bedroom villa — 45,000
• 2 nights in a 2 bedroom villa — 80,000
• 3 nights in a 2 bedroom villa — 100,000
• 4 nights in a 2 bedroom villa — 115,000
• 5 nights in a 2 bedroom villa — 125,000
• 6 nights in a 2 bedroom villa — 140,000
• 7 nights in a 2 bedroom villa — 150,000

Unfortunately not - see the links above - the change is effective in July - and Aruba is now a Cat 7

[ArtsieAng]

Originally Posted by GrayFal

Unfortunately not - see the links above - the change is effective in July - and Aruba is now a Cat 7

But, my link with the 7 night 150 000 points, also says tha the change is effective in July. Oh, this is awful!

From my link....

Changes for Marriott Vacation Club Awards


Effective July 16, 2009, the number of points required for redemption stays with Marriott Vacation Club resorts is changing. Marriott Vacation Club properties will now be assigned hotel category levels, which means the points required for a free night at Marriott Vacation Clubs resorts will change.


This new pricing applies to Marriott Vacation Club redemption reservations booked on or after July 16, 2009........

[GrayFal]

Originally Posted by ArtsieAng

But, my link with the 7 night 150 000 points, also says tha the change is effective in July. Oh, this is awful!

From my link....

Changes for Marriott Vacation Club Awards


Effective July 16, 2009, the number of points required for redemption stays with Marriott Vacation Club resorts is changing. Marriott Vacation Club properties will now be assigned hotel category levels, which means the points required for a free night at Marriott Vacation Clubs resorts will change.


This new pricing applies to Marriott Vacation Club redemption reservations booked on or after July 16, 2009........

and right after what you posted is this link

Visit our FAQ page for more information.

when you click on it https://www.marriott.com/marriott.mi?page=mvci-faq
it brings you to the page with the NEW values - what u posted are the old/current values...

This really stinks....

[ArtsieAng]

I guess I didn't want to believe it.

WOW......This is a nightmare for those of us who have been trading in their units for points. I can't believe that Marriott isn't going to be increasing the number of points being given to timeshare owners for their units. This is an outrageous difference in points needed for a 7 night stay.

How is it fair that Marriott has increased points needed for stays, across the board, but doesn't feel that they should be giving owners an increase in points, as well?

Is there any way that Marriott will be able to sell directly using the option to exchange for points? How are they going to deal with this issue in timeshares sales? And, how are they going to rationalize it with their current ownership?

NOT HAPPY!!!!!

[ArtsieAng]

I'm guessing that they are not longer concerned with using the "trade for points" sales angle on timeshare sales. Maybe they are planning on introducing their internal exchange program, and will be using that as the incentive to buy direct?

Whatever.....It stinks!

[katiemack]

Wow! I feel your pain....this is the downside to points, the manipulative factor.