60 Day reservations not being reduced in points

[dougp26364]

Originally Posted by winger

Doug, this said, in recent <59days DRI bookings, two as recent as last month (January), when I first called to ask about availability, the rep quoted the full price. Upon questioning this, rep re-look at "another system" (whatever that means) and quoted the 50% reduction.

What I'm seeing online.......and I haven't searched every resort as of yet......is that the DRI managed resorts show the reduction while some of the affiliated resorts, especially the newest affiliates, do not show the discount.

The simple thing to do is call and ask for the discounted rate. Since I'm not interested in making the reservation I'm not willing to waste a representitives time. At this point no one seems to be able to locate any definitive wording other than DRI is not obligated to reduce the points required for a reservation. Until there is definitive wording in writing, we can only assume that reservations don't have to be discounted.

[DRIvaDiva]

Originally Posted by dougp26364

What I'm seeing online.......and I haven't searched every resort as of yet......is that the DRI managed resorts show the reduction while some of the affiliated resorts, especially the newest affiliates, do not show the discount.

The simple thing to do is call and ask for the discounted rate. Since I'm not interested in making the reservation I'm not willing to waste a representitives time. At this point no one seems to be able to locate any definitive wording other than DRI is not obligated to reduce the points required for a reservation. Until there is definitive wording in writing, we can only assume that reservations don't have to be discounted.

what's not DEFINITIVE about the Articles and Rules and Regulations of THE Club SM and the absence of previous statements in member guides and directories?

From: doug <dougp26364>
To: DiamondResorts-owners@yahoogroups.com


On another discussion forum [TS4Ms] it's been mentioned that the 2010 members guide doesn't have anything about reservations being half the cost of points if the reservation is less than 60 days. What has been pointed out is that in THE Club rules section 2.2.16 it states that DRI is not obligated to offer accomadations for reduced points. In doing an online search I have noted at least one affiliated resort that does not show the 50% off rate even though it's within the 60 day window. Otherwise every other resort I could find that had availability was showing reservations for 50% of the regular point value.

So has the rule changed or, has it always been the rule but it's just being enforced now that DRI is adding several more affiliated resorts?

not the Member Guide but what DRI calls the Legal Document

"This document is the new legal disclosure document that all new members will receive and defines the amended Articles and Rules and Regulations of THE Club SM"

to answer your question, all you need do is refer to previous copies of the Articles and Rules and Regulations of THE Club SM.

Any annual publication such as the aforementioned directories and member guides are non applicable to 2010.

Remember that DRI can change the Articles and Rules and Regulations of THE Club SM at will.

So your off hand comment

"THE Club rules clearly state a 50% reduction in reservations less than 59 days. DRI has had glitches with the online system from time to time. While I haven't always been a DRI cheerleader, DRI has made significant efforts to improve THE Club and the resorts it manages. Off hand comments without experience or first hand knowledge really don't assist the OP."

is false and really doesn't assist the OP.

[DRIvaDiva]

and, of course, the easily changeable statement on the Point Saver search feature which says

THE Club membership gives you many opportunities to enjoy extra vacations by offering discounted rates using your points and this search tool will only identify those opportunities being offered at a discount. THE Club offers 50% off points for week long reservations at many resorts within 59 days, and within 30 days offers 50% off points for nightly reservations for a two night minimum stay. In addition THE Club&reg; each month through email announces additionally discounted points opportunities, so for notification subscribe within the Preferences - Mailings - Member News and Offers. This search feature will solely return discounted opportunities, so if you wish to see all availability (including point discounts) please use the Quick Search feature.

[hercules24]

I had reason to question why I was not being offered a 50% discount on a departure within 59 days, the explanation I was given was that now that DRI offered more flexible holidays part weeks and various departure dates that differ from resort standard check in days that these holidays would only be discounted (if available) by 50% 30 days prior to departure. However, if a holiday was booked for 7 days within 59 days of arrival commencing on the resorts standard check in day then this holiday would be discounted by 50%, hope this helps.

[Ryne08]

This sound like a good question to ask directly to DRI for a written clarification?.

[Spence]

Originally Posted by hercules24

I had reason to question why I was not being offered a 50% discount on a departure within 59 days, the explanation I was given was that now that DRI offered more flexible holidays part weeks and various departure dates that differ from resort standard check in days that these holidays would only be discounted (if available) by 50% 30 days prior to departure. However, if a holiday was booked for 7 days within 59 days of arrival commencing on the resorts standard check in day then this holiday would be discounted by 50%, hope this helps.

This is TRUE but is not a direct answer to the question that is valid about an availability that fits ALL the parameters you stated but is still not discounted.

[Spence]

Originally Posted by Ryne08

This sound like a good question to ask directly to DRI for a written clarification?.

I think that the answer is perfectly clear. If you read the rules, DRI has had their experts write them to the advantage of the system, and if you were running the system, wouldn't you do the same. What happens when they discount reservations? There are just so many points in the system and they should match the available full price reservations. To keep the system 'balanced,' DRI should add availability from their own supply that is not is THE Club (yet), they really must do this for discounts due to upgrades for elite members. Anyway, discounting throws the system off even though they are doing it to try to stimulate use of properties that would burn anyway because they were originally OVERvalued for the season.

I can especially see NOT discounting an availability in the discount period that pops up because of a cancellation that was under Reservation protection. This could very well be abused by members as points are very valuable... a member could get Reservation Protection for a very expensive reservation cancel it under 60days and rebook at half price. NOT good for the system. DRI is trying to make the system completely viable.

[hercules24]

I am a little confused - as far as I am aware all accommodation is discounted by 50% if available for a week on normal check in days 59 days or less prior to departure - 30 days for none standard check in days, if you had accommodation already booked to get a 100% refund of points you would have to cancel 60 days before departure giving all members the opportunity to book next day at a discount of 50% - I do not feel that this is what the insurance of points protects (I may be wrong), I thought that it just refunded your points in full if you could not travel due to circumstances such as medical reasons. etc.

[Spence]

Originally Posted by hercules24

I am a little confused - as far as I am aware all accommodation is discounted by 50% if available for a week on normal check in days 59 days or less prior to departure - 30 days for none standard check in days, if you had accommodation already booked to get a 100% refund of points you would have to cancel 60 days before departure giving all members the opportunity to book next day at a discount of 50% - I do not feel that this is what the insurance of points protects (I may be wrong), I thought that it just refunded your points in full if you could not travel due to circumstances such as medical reasons. etc.

All accommodations are not discounted, that is why this thread started.
No a little naive, Resrvation Protection allows the member, for a price, the ability to cancel a reservation and receive all points back up to a day prior to check-in.

[dale7]

Maybe this might answer some of the questions of what resorts are giving discounts.

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