Point To Point Destinations, Vancouver, BC - My unfortunate experience.

[TimeshareRevealed.com]

I bought my timeshare from Point To Point Destinations (West Coast Timeshare) in Vancouver, BC. It was my big mistake which i regret ever since.

I discovered a lot of facts after i bought it. I encourage everyone who is considering buying any timeshare from anyone, especially from Point To Point Destinations (West Coast Timeshare) to check the facts first.

Never go to a sales presentation until you check the facts. Do not think you’ll do it later. I thought that I am a very skeptical, cautious and smart person. They are very skilled marketing artists that proved me wrong. Do not be an idiot like me and do not sign anything on the day and at the place of the presentation.

Anyway, emotions aside, make sure to check the FACTS. I posted the facts about my experience on this web site:

www.TimeshareRevealed.com

[Bill4728]

We hear the same thing over and over again. "I thought I was smarter than to buy a TS at one of these presentations."

The key was you said is to check into TSs before going to a presentation.

BUT for anyone who just bought, you almost always have 5-10 days after signing to rescind your purchase.

Be smart "BUY RESELL"

[TimeshareRevealed.com]

Hi Bill,

You are mostly right.

Although the contract does not say that and nobody at the presentation would ever mention this and some people like me were not so familiar with consumer rights.

Even worse, we were sent a letter almost right after signing the contract suggesting that it is very common for people to think that they made a mistake and it encouraged us to just give it time to figure it all out and WAIT.

Also we had no idea how many things were misrepresented to us until we actually tried to use it half a year later. Until then we happily trusted what we were told.

Also a major problem is that we were denied access to the system during the presentation (we specifically asked) and sales reps refused to demo how it works to book a vacation in real life on the real RCI web site. Our RCI membership arrived approximately a month later after we signed the contract - way after the cooling off period ended. Only then, when we logged for the first time, we realized how we were taken for a ride.

Also only when the need did arise, we dealt with customer service and the hotel just to find out that what is available for cash is not available for RCI points. Also only with time instead of 3-4 weeks of stay as promised we discovered that our package is good only for 3 days.

Also way after thecontract was signed we found out about other fees that we were never told.

Only a year later we discovered that our points cannot be accumulated for more than one year, unlike what we were told, and it does not say that in the contract, so cooling off period would not help here either.

These things plus many more were discovered over time, and all of them way after those 10 days, so that cooling off period could not serve the purpose anyway.

The facts that are posted on www.TimeshareRevealed.com do not say anything about the misrepresentation part, specifically what we were told and what the reality is. This will be presented in the court of law with witnesses and will be posted publically if we win the case or taken to the next level of either appeal or class action if we lose.

I hope i answered your question. If not, feel free to ask.

[Dori]

Point to Point purchased several units at our home resort in Ontario, and we went to their presentation. We have owned TS for 16 years, and are pretty savvy about the workings successful trades, etc. We have also been members of TUG for several years.

Nothing that this company offered could match the mileage we get out of weeks. We questioned many promises that the sales rep made, and he did concede that their package would be of no benefit to us.

Try to find a way to make this work for you, since you are obligated. Keep readijng these boards, and learn all you can.

Good luck with your law suit.

Dori

[Assistant]

There is legal help available for Canadian timeshare owners. Timeshare contracts can be canceled and money refunded if your rights were violated. There is no upfront legal fees, no catch, no fine print, no surprises.

link removed- note also that what they call no upfront fees does not account for a retainer they require. Note that they also say above "if your rights were violated"- good luck proving that.

[vlqyr]

Originally Posted by TimeshareRevealed.com

Hi Bill,

You are mostly right.

Although the contract does not say that and nobody at the presentation would ever mention this and some people like me were not so familiar with consumer rights.

Even worse, we were sent a letter almost right after signing the contract suggesting that it is very common for people to think that they made a mistake and it encouraged us to just give it time to figure it all out and WAIT.

Also we had no idea how many things were misrepresented to us until we actually tried to use it half a year later. Until then we happily trusted what we were told.

Also a major problem is that we were denied access to the system during the presentation (we specifically asked) and sales reps refused to demo how it works to book a vacation in real life on the real RCI web site. Our RCI membership arrived approximately a month later after we signed the contract - way after the cooling off period ended. Only then, when we logged for the first time, we realized how we were taken for a ride.

Also only when the need did arise, we dealt with customer service and the hotel just to find out that what is available for cash is not available for RCI points. Also only with time instead of 3-4 weeks of stay as promised we discovered that our package is good only for 3 days.

Also way after thecontract was signed we found out about other fees that we were never told.

Only a year later we discovered that our points cannot be accumulated for more than one year, unlike what we were told, and it does not say that in the contract, so cooling off period would not help here either.

These things plus many more were discovered over time, and all of them way after those 10 days, so that cooling off period could not serve the purpose anyway.

The facts that are posted on www.TimeshareRevealed.com do not say anything about the misrepresentation part, specifically what we were told and what the reality is. This will be presented in the court of law with witnesses and will be posted publically if we win the case or taken to the next level of either appeal or class action if we lose.

I hope i answered your question. If not, feel free to ask.

First of all, the contract does talk about the 10 day rescission period.

Second, RCI points get issued about 6 weeks after you purchase, that's how RCI works, nothing to do with any Timeshare Development company. It takes time to process your account into the system.

About the amount of vacation time you get, I find it highly unbelievable that you could only get 3 days. It all depends where you are going, what time of the year, the rating of the resort, and the size of the accomodations. Maybe you're trying to book a 5 star 3 bedroom in Hawaii and you only have something like 25k or 30k points? Learn how to use your program.

Your points can be accumulated for more than one year, you just have to pay something like 26 bucks to do it after one year. Hmmm, pay 26 bucks to get double the vacation time I would normally get in one year, or let them go to waste? I dunno, maybe I'll just keep complaining, maybe that's better...

[vlqyr]

Originally Posted by Dori

Point to Point purchased several units at our home resort in Ontario, and we went to their presentation. We have owned TS for 16 years, and are pretty savvy about the workings successful trades, etc. We have also been members of TUG for several years.

Nothing that this company offered could match the mileage we get out of weeks. We questioned many promises that the sales rep made, and he did concede that their package would be of no benefit to us.

Try to find a way to make this work for you, since you are obligated. Keep readijng these boards, and learn all you can.

Good luck with your law suit.

Dori

LOL you're comparing a weeks program to a points program? Im sorry. I just can't agree here.

Weeks program : 1. have to stay a week at a time. 2. Stuck with specific week (unless floating week) 3. Stuck with the same size accomodation (unless you exchange) 4. Have to wait on a 3rd party if you want to exchange (meaning, someone has to be willing to exchange their timeshare with you if you want to go somewhere else other than your resort)

VERSUS;

Points program: 1. can stay however long you want. 3 days, one week, 10 days, whatever.. 2. can go anywhere without waiting on a 3rd party to exchange - DIRECT BOOKING 3. not stuck to same size accomodations, you need a suite, book a suite, you need a 3 BR, book a 3 BR - it's all about flexibility and options. 4. not stuck to a certain week # of the calendar year, go whenever you feel like it...

[bevvy5]

Welcome. Are you by chance affiliated with the resort group in question?

No problem if you are, it's just that we don't see a lot of occasions where a six-month-old thread is resurrected with two posts by the same person, that's all.

But again, welcome, your views will be respected here.

Bev

[Beaglemom3]

At any timeshare presentation, when asked your occupation, always tell them that you work for for the Attorney General's Office in your home state of ________________ (fill in the blank), Consumer Fraud Protection Division.

That has always worked for me. They back off, waaaaay off.


B.

[happymum]

Originally Posted by Beaglemom3

At any timeshare presentation, when asked your occupation, always tell them that you work for for the Attorney General's Office in your home state of ________________ (fill in the blank), Consumer Fraud Protection Division.

That has always worked for me. They back off, waaaaay off.


B.

Great suggestion!