Bluegreen Vacation Club Forum

[BocaBum99]

Originally Posted by jamesbondaka007

We purchased the Sampler from Big Cedar and used them up last year. We liked it, would like to buy 9,000 points from the good resale site or individuals. Would Boca lead us the right direction on this? Thanks in advance.

Yes, I can help you. I am getting a ton of new inventory in, I'll send you a private message.

[Buschdog]

I am considering purchasing at least two Bluegreen Resort timeshares at Big Cedar Lodge in Missouri on the secondary market. It seems less expensive to buy two in order to accumulate the desired amount of vacation points. My question is can the points be combined so I can use them for one stay?

[BocaBum99]

Originally Posted by Buschdog

I am considering purchasing at least two Bluegreen Resort timeshares at Big Cedar Lodge in Missouri on the secondary market. It seems less expensive to buy two in order to accumulate the desired amount of vacation points. My question is can the points be combined so I can use them for one stay?

Yes you can. Be careful of closing costs and total maintenance fees. Many owners come to me to fix their maintenance fees after making several purchases.

[carolinacrazy]

Signed at Big Cedar, and I would not mind if the decision was all my own. Good, bad or indifferent, I will service this purchase. Bad news is, I joined with my Father, and I do not want him to suffer any kind of bad experience. I need some help here. Could someone summize this "ownership" for me? I looked at some resorts at Myrtle Beach, and the points we purchased would not go far there unless you use bonus points for the weekends. Is this the norm? Is availability a problem? Sorry for the non-descript post, but it is a clear representation of my understanding at this pont. Please help!!!!

[amoljac]

I hope you did not buy through BlueGreen at Big Cedar. We had a real horror story dealing with the people at Big Cedar. They lied to us, intimidated us and refused to honor a contract we had signed and notorized. I would not buy a plug nickle from them!! If you want to buy see Bocabum he will give you straight honest answers and a GREAT price(Jim doesn't pay me to say good things about him). You WILL have trouble getting into Myrtle Beach in the summer if you wait till less than 8 weeks before to make reservations. We have the 1st week in August and wanted to get a 2nd reservation for family. NO way bonus time or not. What we ended up for our "week" at Harbour Lights is piecing together reservations to make a week and that was 3-4 months before, at least. With any timeshare place in late June to August you must make reservations at least 6 months ahead if you want to have certainty about being able to go where you want, when you want and the size place you want. We have used bonus time in Blue & White season to save points in the past. Now we are Gold and have plenty of points(upgraded about 4x). If you are in the 10 day or 48 hour rescind do it immediately...then go directly to BocaBum. You have to learn the Bluegreen system, I have sometimes the hard way. This forum is helpful and would encourage you to look also in TUG. We enjoy the options that Bluegreen offers. But most of what the sales people tell you would be better to fertilize your garden. Bluegreen does have a lot to offer...you just don't have to buy and pay the awful rate they charge to enjoy.

AMOLJAC

[BoardGirl]

Welcome to Bluegreen!

Bluegreen is a great system, once you know how it works. Knowledge is power. Don't worry, Dad will end up Happy, so will You.

Whatever amount of points you bought will always allow you to reserve that unit week. But each resort has their own points chart and seasons do vary. We originally bought 8000 EOY which was not enuf for a full week in most cases, but we were able to stretch our points by using points during the week, bonus time for weekends. Seems you have already caught on to that!

Planning ahead is key if you simply must be at Resort X at Date Y. If you are flexible on either place or time, preferably BOTH, you can take some great vacations. Some of the trips we've taken were because there was availability in the timeframe we wanted but we were flexible with where to go.

The other thing to keep in mind if you are seeking the X and Y is that people do cancel. There have been times I was trying to get a reservation for a friend or family member and found no availability, but by calling back every so often, I have been successful.

Availability is a tricky thing. Prime time in prime locations will almost always be snapped up very quickly. I've not had what I would call problems with availability, but do note, I am not tied to the school calendar and generally like to go in the shoulder seasons both for weather and crowd purposes. For us, Bluegreen has been a terrific system that just keeps getting better. I have no reason to own anything else.

Check out the Yahoo Group for Bluegreen also. You can learn a ton there from owners.

[bobd1075]

In Jan 2008 we bought an 8000 point package from BB using Pinnacle to add to our 13,000 points. Through the Pinnacle Vacations Agreement we qualified for Silver Preferred and everything is in order.

Recently at Christmas Mountain, Wisconsin Dells, the Sales Manager told us that since we have two deeds and one was “aftermarket” there is risk in the future that BlueGreen will take away Silver status and treat them as two separate contracts with separate maintenance fees. He cited a corporate memo dated May 2009 warning about future situations.

Do you know more about the risk of this happening to past transactions? Also what is true going forward? I have a friend who is interested in adding points.

Of course, for a mere minimum purchase of 4000 more points ($8400 +$360 closing) they would combine everything into one new deed.

[BocaBum99]

Originally Posted by bobd1075

In Jan 2008 we bought an 8000 point package from BB using Pinnacle to add to our 13,000 points. Through the Pinnacle Vacations Agreement we qualified for Silver Preferred and everything is in order.

Recently at Christmas Mountain, Wisconsin Dells, the Sales Manager told us that since we have two deeds and one was “aftermarket” there is risk in the future that BlueGreen will take away Silver status and treat them as two separate contracts with separate maintenance fees. He cited a corporate memo dated May 2009 warning about future situations.

Do you know more about the risk of this happening to past transactions? Also what is true going forward? I have a friend who is interested in adding points.

Of course, for a mere minimum purchase of 4000 more points ($8400 +$360 closing) they would combine everything into one new deed.

When evaluating such risks, you need to look at the history of Bluegreen Management and what they do to support their current customers.

First, when you sign an agreement with Pinnacle Vacations, it clearly states that you qualify for all the rights and privileges of the Bluegreen Premier program based on how many points you own at the time of purchase.

Second, Bluegreen has a history of grandfathering in owners who have achieved certain levels of ownership if they have achieved those levels by legitimate means. Bluegreen grandfathered all owners into Premier who purchased prior to Feb 21, 2007. And, they even allowed the grandfather for purchases made as late as Aug of that year. Whenever Bluegreen makes a contractual commitment and changes the rules, I have ALWAYS seen them honor the terms of the original agreement.

Third, the ire it would create from resale owners flooding call centers is probably not worth the potential gain from such a takeaway. Think about it. If you were granted Premier through a legitimate method and later they took it away. How likely would you be to purchase from the next sales guy who offered you the same program?

Very unlikely that the sales guy saw such a memo. First of all, management would NOT send such a memo to sales. If they did, they would be shooting themselves in the foot.

I would simply ask for the sales guy to put that statement in writing so that you could verify it with Bluegreen executive management. You will never see a more beautiful moon walk in your life.

[jepbwp49]

Originally Posted by BocaBum99

Welcome to the new Bluegreen Vacation Club forum. My name is Jim and I will be your moderator. Since there are so many Jim's in timesharing, I go by Boca or BB. You can address me in anyway that makes you feel most comfortable.

This forum is all about educating people on one of the best kept secrets in timesharing....the Bluegreen Vacation Club (BVC). I first became aware of Bluegreen through my good friend Bruce CZ who gave me a true education on the finer points of Christmas Mountain Village UDIs. In those discussions, Bruce introduced me to Bonus time. Living in Florida, where Bluegreen Corporation (NYSE: BXG) is headquartered, I found that I would have access to bonus time at dozens of resorts within driving distance for a really low fee. I became a member and got hooked.

There is a really good Yahoo Group for Bluegreen owners. If you become really interested in Bluegreen, I highly recommend joining.

In any event, I'll be compiling information on the Bluegreen Vacation Club in this forum for anyone interested in learning more about it.

If you have any specific questions that you feel better asking privately, please feel free to send me an email or private message. I'd be delighted to help you out.

Enjoy.

I just discovered this forum and have already learned a lot. I currently am a bronze member and am interested in upgrading to silver. Can you guide me as to the best way to do this? Currently I earn 32,000 points bi-annually.

[kenny]

brand new here. i really want out and don't know how to sell. own Bluegreen. found a company called pinnacle and ready to try them. anyone have a better idea or a reason not to mess w/ them?